coreyml wrote:I like the course. I think that the renumbering is a good idea. For those who cant throw as far, grouping those holes together could literally be painful. I know that I havent been out there to do work (moved) but I would clear out gold 7's Tee pad. That shot is kind of ridiculous. I'm sure that the more that the course gets played, more will clear.
grease wrote:[quote="BP]We'll create a new course map & tee signs BEFORE any formal change of the course layout. [/i][/quote]
When you recreate the t-signs, can you show the pads as gold and silver? The blue and red pads with gold and silver baskets as shown on the existing t-signs is slightly confusing.[/quote][/quote]
grease wrote:I guess I am slightly confused since the original word on the street was that there would be gold/silver tees and gold/silver baskets. Thus the playing gold to gold, gold to silver,silver to silver, or silver to gold options that were regularly referred to before the tee signs were added to the tee posts. Plus, the tee posts were marked gold and silver with a sharpie before the tee signs were added. I played the course not long after the tee signs were added and people were asking where the gold or silver pads were, so I wasn't the only one thrown off by the blue and red tees on the tee signs. Not ragging on anyone and I really appreciate the improvements out there.
millayday wrote:I gotta agree with Grease. Every single person I've played the course with asks why the hell the tee pads are blue/red and the baskets are silver/gold. Even though red and blue might be normal at other courses, those courses do not have 2 different baskets that they could be throwing to. It's needlessly confusing on an already confusing course that a lot of the locals are having trouble adjusting to. Avid disc golfers like the new layout but almost every newb I've heard hates it and want a return to the original layout. I personally love the new course and am very thankful to everyone involved. Obviously there are some tweaks that need to be made but, all in all, it's quality and it gives a lot of different play options. There are really only two holes that I have a problem with, and I'll venture a guess and say that most other people who've played them will agree. Hole #9 Gold is borderline retarded. I know that that was not meant to be the original pin placement, but that is the definition of a "throw and hope" hole. I guess they're trying to call that a par 4 but it could only be considered that due to difficulty factor, definitely not distance. And the difficulty factor should require skill to overcome, not luck. In fact, there's really only 1 legit par 4, and that is #7 Gold (old 5). I'm not sure where this par 59 thing is coming from. 8, 9, and 10 are long but not par 4 long. Anyways, the other hole that needs a lot of tree removal to be valid is #14, especially the silver tee. Actually, I forgot about 15 Gold. That is a pretty questionable placement too. Not sure where else it could go since I'm told across the creek is not an option, but it is definitely lacking right now. I certainly appreciate the fact that this is still a work in progress and I'm sure many of these issues will be addressed. Just giving my initial thoughts on the course. Overall I think it's great and look forward to it getting even more beat in. Thanks again to everyone involved
grease wrote:Not trying to jump on Chris' bitch wagon, but usually ( forgive me if I have this backwards) red denotes long and blue is before the ladies tee. On some holes, the red (or long tee) is not always longer than the blue tee or at least it seems. Even the tee markers for the shorter tee on hole one are painted silver. It just seems instead of trying to defend the red/blue pads on the tee signs that since you have to redo them anyway, why not go with gold/silver like everyone was expecting/used to? I guess I just did jump on the bitch wagon, but I only mean it as constructive criticism with the utmost respect.
grease wrote:Not trying to jump on Chris' bitch wagon, but usually ( forgive me if I have this backwards) red denotes long and blue is before the ladies tee.
atl scott wrote:Maybe you should name the 4 different course layouts and get rid of tee and basket colors all-together.
Gold = long pad to long basket
Black = long pad to short basket
Blue = short pad to long basket
Red = short pad to short basket
Then someone could say to his buddies "Hey wanna meet for a round of Oregon Blue" and it might make sense. Assuming said golfer actually had friends.
jritger wrote:FWIW, here's an example of another course using the same concept. Fantastic course if you are ever in that area: http://www.dgcoursereview.com/course.php?id=17&mode=ci
They have two colors (silver & blue) for both baskets and teepads:
Tee 1 = Silver/Silver (Par 54)
Tee 2 = Blue/Silver (Par 57)
Tee 3 = Silver/Blue (Par 61)
Tee 4 = Blue/Blue (Par 67)
I've played it once and it worked well, not confusing at all.
BP wrote:OK, fine, we'll make it silver and gold!
kurt wrote:once things are finalized at O.P. it will be one of the best courses in Georgia.
Funky Bobby J wrote:kurt wrote:once things are finalized at O.P. it will be one of the best courses in Georgia.
Uh - no, it won't - solid, but unspectacular. I played it Sunday for the first time in years and thought that there were some fun holes, but 2 sets of pads and baskets does not make a great course. What will likely happen over time is that people will pick their fav tee and basket combos and a good course will emerge thru that.
I had a good time and will definitely play it again - but no where near one of the best courses in GA (IMO).
kurt wrote:Please be concise of people playing to different pins and allow others to play through when the hole permits.
grease wrote:I think that dead horse has been flogged enough about the tee pads.
kurt wrote:i will try to elaborate on my playing through statement:
two foursomes (8 folks) at tee pad at same time.
one group is playing gold to gold one group playing gold to silver
i would allow both groups to tee off at same time then split up at fairway juncture of gold and silver baskets
or let the group playing the shorter hole tee off first
Funky Bobby J wrote:Bob...he does not mean exactly at the same time... He is trying to explain the etiquette of how you let someone play thru - which is lost on many. You would all safely throw tee shots and then approach you second shots and allow the natural flow to continue presumably with the folks playing the shorter pads to finish out and move on.
The course will have serious and possibly dangerous flow issues when there are many people out there - Kurt is right - etiquette will be a necessity out there. How do you teach etiquette to the masses (or the occasional TD )? I do not remember the holes well enough - but you have some crisscrossing and close proximities that could be a real issue.
coreyml wrote:Played it again today - first time in a month - new signs.
I like it, I like the flow and the pin positions. I like new 18's tee, too.
I still think 7 blue is a little ridiculous and should either be cleared out (since there is concrete)or moved.
Do the signs have the distances for each pin from the respective tee pad? I never went over to the silver pads to look and compare - but i think they should, if not already.
Nice work all-uh-yall and thank you.
I know some tee pads still need some TLC and just overall use to clean them up and I understand that will come.
grease wrote:Played OP today and must say that the renumbering was a major improvement and cut down big time on the criss-cross effect of the previous layout. Well done! Now if you could change the tee signs back to red and blue...........
dandaman wrote:I'm confused (who isn't?).
I understand the benefits of multiple pads and even 2 baskets on each hole, but why don't you go with just one or the other? One pad to two different baskets OR two pads to one basket? If you go with the later idea then the other baskets could be used for another park in Cobb county (if there is a park with that possibility). If you go with just one pad and one basket then the additional money being raised could go to another park that could support/acquire dg (if such a park in Cobb county exists). That way you are getting two courses for the price of your $.
I understand that would be totally against the flow of what is occuring now, but it sounds like you have 2 courses on top of really just one. In all fairness I have not played OP since it was a 9 hole course with two different dirt teepads, so maybe I am really off based. My apologies for interjecting my thoughts. I personally would prefer to have two courses in an area rather than just one that had multiple teepads and bakets.
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